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Terry Pratchett

Jed Novick talks to the best-selling author who spins a fantastic yarn about turtles, elephants and rats

What sort of person writes about a circular world on the back of a giant star turtle supported by four elephants? It's a question that sits proudly at the top of one of the squillions of websites dedicated to the man described by his publicist as "Britain's most fanatically followed novelist", a man whose books have been translated into 27 languages and have sold over 22 million copies. Every time he writes a new book it sells in excess of 400,000 paperbacks and 100,000 hardbacks in the UK alone. He is the only author to have topped both the adult and children's best-seller lists simultaneously. Looking back through the cuttings, it seems that he's written close on 4,300 books. "Actually, I think it's only about 3,200 or it could be round about 35. It depends what you call a book - once you get into the cook books and things like that." He was recently named as the best-selling author of the last decade in the UK and - and I'm not quite sure how this one is calibrated - he is reputed to be the most shoplifted author in Britain.

"Ultimately it was Tolkien's fault," says Terry Pratchett, creator of the ridiculously successful Discworld series, the science fantasy that concerns the giant turtle and, you know, the elephants. "Indirectly it was Tolkein's fault. When Tolkien was really popular which I suppose was in the mid-Seventies - when the media realised that he was popular and therefore he became officially popular - the market for heroic fantasy opened up hugely. In the late 1970s and early 1980s you couldn't move in the bookshops for titles like Volume 7 of The Chronicles Of... whatever it was, and some of it was good and a lot of it was adequate, but not a lot showed much originality. But a market had been identified and basic economics was taking place."

Pratchett, 53, and a journalist by trade, picked up on something that Douglas Adams had tapped into and something that Wes Craven later exploited with his Scream films: there comes a stage with every genre when it becomes so popular that it's cliches become the subject in themselves. Adams did it with sci-fi, Craven did it with horror and Pratchett did it with heroic fantasy.

"There comes a point where if you want to get a laugh, people have to know what it is they're laughing about. So I wrote the Discworld series initially as a kind of antidote to all those terrible books where people said things like 'be like he will wax wrath'. It was an antidote to the overly serious heroic fantasy sagas that were around at that time. I chose a scenario straight out of world mythology, a world where you go through space on the back of a giant turtle. It didn't take me a long time to come up with it - it's a genuinely mythological concept you can find in various places in the world - I just chose it because it is clearly a ridiculous place. Then I decided to make the people on it as realistic as I could because that's where the humour would be. The simple act of putting 20th century people with 20th century reactions in this crazy medieval fantasy world created humour. That's how it began. Since then, things have become a little more complicated."

The reason we're here is to discuss Terry's new book, The Amazing Maurice And His Educated Rodents. Sharp eyed readers will notice that the D word doesn't appear anywhere in the title. Although Maurice is "set in the Discworld® universe" it is one of Terry's children's books. The story concerns Maurice, a scruffy tomcat ("a bit like Sergeant Bilko") who has his own gang of strangely educated rats and they… Is it very diffferent, writing for kids and adults? "Yes, but it's impossible to tell you what it is, precisely because it's a matter of spin. The real reason that Maurice is a children's book is that it's probably impossible to write a book where all the major characters are rats - the only major human characters are young teenagers - it's impossible to write a book like that without it almost gravitating to be a children's book. It's something that happens in our market-led society. I suppose what also distinguishes it as a children's book is that it's got lots of blood and murder in it. You can always tell a good children's book that way. You just think of the old fairy stories."

True enough. So listen. When you're writing about rats, are you writing about rats, or is this some sort of deep allegory for…? "It's an allegory for rats. I don't think you want to get too deeply involved in that kind of thing. The rats are as real as I can make them. And they're intelligent. What you read into it is up to you. All I'm going to hold my hand up to is the fact that they are rats." Why Maurice's rats are like they are, what they do, and what happens to them, that's the story.

In 1998, Pratchett was awarded an OBE for services to literature and in 1999 was given an honorary Doctorate of Literature from the University of Warwick. Does it surprise you, how popular it all is? "Not now. There was a period in the late 1980s, early 1990s where things were happening so fast that by the time I realised what was happening, it wasn't happening any more because something else was happening." So now you're just famous. "We went to Australia a couple of months ago and the lady who took our shoes away to be cleaned because of all that foot and mouth stuff was a Discworld fan, and on the way back, the lady at immigration was a Discworld fan. I think that when you get recognised by the people at immigration you're probably doing pretty well."

The Amazing Maurice And His Educated Rodents (Doubleday) by Terry Pratchett is out now.

Terry will be signing copies of his new book at Borders, Churchill Square on Nov 23.

copyright New Insight 2001



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