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Success and riches aside, Irvine
Welsh still styles himself a Celtic storyteller. Jed Novick
talks to him about his latest work: Glue
There's a curious thing about
Glue, Irvine Welsh's new novel. It's nothing to do with the
actual book itself, more the packaging, the baggage. There are
two references to Welsh in the book and both say simply,
"Irvine Welsh lives in London." Now then. There's
nothing wrong with living in London (well…) but it's not
something you'd necessarily associate with Irvine Welsh.
"When you have your first
dust jacket you kind of waffle on, thank everybody and you try
and be smart and write all sorts of rubbish, but eventually you
cut all the waffle out, so I try and keep all that stuff to a
minimum." But… "Irvine Welsh lives in London"?
For someone who's writing is so geographically specific, isn't
that a strange thing to write? "No, I don't think so. I've
lived in London on and off for about 20 years. I've always moved
between London and Edinburgh. I'm up all the time. I've still
got a place in Edinburgh and I go up every second weekend. I've
still got a season ticket for the football and still feel part
of the scene up there."
Irvine Welsh might live in London, but his writing hasn't made
that move south yet and Glue is as Edinburgh-based as anyone
might reasonably expect, and is characterised by the rhythmic
slang that Welsh has made his own.
"Topsy hud been oan at ays
aw week; at school, then at oor work, aboot ays no gaun tae the
Hearts game at Montrose. It wis jist cause ah'd been at Hibs oan
Saturday. Ah think eh thoat ah wis changin sides. Nae chance ay
that. Ah still shite masel thinkin aboot that gob that went doon
ma throat. Ah dinnae mind a punchin or a kickin, but that's
disgustin." Most writers struggle to find an individual
voice, a voice that they can call their own. Welsh's blessing -
and probably his curse as well, but ain't that always the way -
is that he found his something in the first book he wrote. There
ain't no one who's going to write a sentence like, "Ah
still shite masel thinkin aboot that gob that went doon ma
throat", because it is so obviously Welsh. Even if someone
wanted to write like that, they couldn't because it would sound
like they're ripping him off. Picking out a random extract like
that, it's a ridiculous thing to do and on the page here, in
isolation, it looks strange, foreign. But in the book, the words
take on a hypnotic feel, they flow. It kind of bounces the pages
along. And even if there are words you don't immediately
recognise - and I had to check "masel" a few times -
it doesn't matter: you know what the sentence is saying even if
you don't know what it means. "Hypnotic? Yes, I think the
reason it's hard, particularly at the start is because of the
words on the page, the way they look. You're not used to seeing
words on the page written like that. And it's just as hard if
you come from Scotland."
"The lingo is much easier
for me because these are the voices that come to me and the
characters come to me that way. It would have been pretentious
to have written Trainspotting in standard English, it would have
just been ridiculous. Anyone who knew these characters could
never have envisaged them speaking that way, so it would have
been ridiculous to have attributed that to them. Standard
English is quite problematic when you're trying to do different
cultures, because it's an imperialist language. It's a kind of
weights and measures. It's a controlling language and it's not
got the kind of funk to it that can bring the characters to
life. When I started writing I wanted to draw on the Celtic oral
storytelling tradition, and that's a tradition that's a bit more
performance based. It's got a beat and rhythm to it and I wanted
to capitalise on that."
The story of four lads, Glue
takes us from their early days in the dark Seventies through to
the present - complete with requisite soundtrack and chemical
assistance. To anyone who's read him - or is aware of Welsh -
the characters will seem fantastically familiar. "When
you're writing characters you always come down to your basic
types and make modifications and take it from there. I think
these things have got a life of their own. Sometimes I don't
think you really write a book as you're some kind of
cipher."
"You start off with some
kind of standard plan but it never happens, it always changes.
In some way they're probably refinements or modifications of the
Trainspotting characters: you've got the cynical outsider
intellectual, you've got the fanny merchant, you've got the hard
guy and you've got the doomed loser. They're the same but in
different kind of ways, they're different refinements. Birrell
has channelled his aggression into boxing not like Begbie - he's
made his hobby pay. Juice Terry's a different character to Sick
Boy. He's much less of a schemer, he's much more a machine and
as long as he's shagging regularly he's quite happy. Carl is
different from Renton in that he's more dynamic. He's someone
who does something rather than sit in an armchair, and Gally is
more headstrong than Spud."
Glue is Irvine Welsh's sixth book
including novels and short story collections like The Acid House
and is perceivably bigger than anything he's done before. Not
bigger as in bulk, though at 469 pages it is that as well, but
bigger in scope, in feel, in ambition. It has the feel of book
that's trying to say something. The PR blurb calls it, "An
important and prodigious book" and while we know what value
to put on PR blurbs, Glue kind of feels like that.
"I don't think it's a more
important book… I think I'd be hard pushed to write a more
important book than Trainspotting. I think books become
important because of the impact they have and what they show up.
I don't think Trainspotting's my best book, but I'd have to say
it's the most important because it's had the widest
influence." Is it one of those things that's become as much
a millstone as a pension plan? "A millstone? I always saw
it as more as a kind of opportunity. This is what most writers
are trying to achieve and to have achieved it with my first one…
Well, I realised there's no point in worrying about it. It does
cast a shadow, there's no doubt about it, but it's also opened
lots of doors as well. I've always seen it as a positive
thing."
Do you still like it or are you a
bit sick of it all now? "I think the actual book itself is
great. The stuff that went along with it, the publicity and the
celebrity didn't do that much for me and it was something that I
was keen to shake off as soon as possible, but the actual book
itself and the other stuff that's associated with it like the
play and the film have been great for me." But by setting
the story in so many different time frames and by referencing
the social changes that took place in Britain along the way,
Glue does, whether Welsh admits it or not, set itself up as
maybe not "important" but as a comment.
"No, not really. Just
because of the scope of the book it feels more like that than
previous things I've done. I've always written about people in a
short time frame before so you can dive into their world or dive
into their head. This has been much more looking back, because
it's a longer time frame you can see their influences working on
them more, so it humanises them a bit more."
Are you not a bit bored by these
characters? "I still feel that's where my head's at in
terms of what I'm writing. I don't want or desire to move on to
writing about different social milieu's and all that kind of
stuff. I've no great interest in doing that."
And there's another thing. When
Irvine Welsh started writing he was skint, a chancer, a failed
heroin addict. Now he's presumably rich and well-oiled and
living in London. Now then. We know that rich doesn't
necessarily equal happy, but… is it still valid to write about
squalid Edinburgh life? Isn't what your life is now going to
seep into your work? "I think it will inevitably. I'm quite
happy writing about the sort of things that I write about. I
think you've got enough middle class novelists and some of them
really good, some of them not so good, but they write about what
they are. And I'm still writing about what I am. But yes, it's
that caught between two stools thing. I probably don't live that
life to the extent that I used to, but I still have enough of a
handle, enough of an insight."
Glue is published on May 3.
copyright New Insight 2001
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